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9mm ammo ammunition caliber cartridge case full auto mp5 reloader reloading shell shell shock smg
I wish they would make other caliber as well rather then just 9mm
Two years and running…… …and they haven't replaced regular brass cases yet.
Is that a jack Russell terrier
So, when you load steel cased ammo into a magazine, the "STEEL GRINDS ON STEEL"?I can't tell by feel the difference between aluminum from brass or steel!And other than aluminum being more fragile and un-reloadable, now i have to buy all new reloading dies just for these casings, AND i also have to buy special primers?No thanks.
You have such a great show I've enjoyed watching you these past 4 years
A good solution if you can't buy a full line of machines for producing ammunition.
Is there anything neutral between the aluminum and the steel? Those are dissimilar metals and because there’s one less covalent electron in the aluminum than carbon it causes ionization and rapid corrosion. We see this a lot in the auto industry
There it is……special reloading dies…..pass. I understand the need for them, but I'm not buying more dies just for certain cases
Will you try the 5.56 cases when available in Dec/Jan?
I like to spend as much as possible on ammo. Lol. These rounds are not for me. Im using steel cased ammo.
Wonder how it works in a bull-pub like the Bond arms pistol?
Excellent shooting, wonderful grouping out of auto MP5? From your demo, your target grouping outperforms Kriss Vector. Californians need these kinds of 2A rights. I got hundreds of these 9mm shellshock case rounds and haven't been able to use it indoor range, because it's prohibited. Outdoor range, hard to find that's closeby at southern California.
I have to buy new reloading dies just to reload this. ??????????????????? I don't see this going anywhere… the millions of reloading dies out there already…. forget it, not happening here if I can't use the equipment I already have…
That is one beautiful dog bud.
shoot the dog sell the meat
Just something uncomfortable about it….
More parts more to go wrong.
Just seems complicated to me, I wonder how much wear on the chamber increases with this case?
You have a Beautiful dog. What type is he???
You did tell us the pros of the steel case but negatives? Brass expands to seal the chamber. I can see residue on the outside of fired cases. Is the velocity reduced and is the chamber and action more dirty after firing?
WTF I've been subscribed to your channel for years. Thought I haven't seen something for a while, then found out I was unsub.
Just found your channel after perusing your other vids, subbed!
So let's sum this up…– 50% lighter– 33% cheaper– More durable (can be reloaded more times than brass)– Somewhat magnetic (or at least magnetic ENOUGH)– Easier to load into mags due to less friction– Theoretically will have better reliability when being stripped from mags due to less friction– The way it acts in the chamber upon and after being fired also suggests improved reliability– Cool to the touch upon ejection– Can have differently coloured rims (possibly a better system than painting bullets of different types of ammo?)
The only downsides I can possibly see from this is…– Chambers overheating more quickly due to the casing apparently not absorbing much heat (theoretically if brass retains heat, then that's heat that is taken OUT of the chamber, but then again theoretically if this NAS3 stuff doesn't absorb ammo, maybe it can prevent powder from cooking off in a hot chamber as quickly as brass?)– Rim becoming damaged more quickly due to being made of aluminium rather than brass? (I don't know if brass is more robust or if aluminium is, it is probably aluminium so this is probably a non-issue.)– Separation of the rim from the bottom of the casing due to wear/tear/abuse (not exactly an issue with civilians, but with the Military, Murphy's Law can be a fatal issue. If these casings can last being reloaded and fired over 30 times though, then it seems to me that it can survive whatever abuse you put through it before being fired once.)
That's pretty much it. The only downsides I can think of are only theoretical, and we'll probably have to wait for Military testing to tell us what the downsides are to these casings (if any) when compared to brass. Personally, I think that either none of these negatives are issues, or if any are, they will be negligible at most. If it DOES cause overheating to the chamber slightly faster than when using brass casings, then the soldiers would likely be trained to keep the bolt open once the shooting is done, and to not leave a round chambered for a designated amount of time before you can allow the bolt to drop and chamber a cartridge. Which would you prefer? Being able to carry more ammunition and having more ammunition available for training (due to how cheap it is) but having to keep the chamber empty after the shooting is over, or sticking with brass casings which are heavier, more costly, but not as much of an issue to leave in an empty chamber?
It seems pretty obvious to me. My prediction is after a few months and several thousand rounds of testing, as well as testing the average amount of fire needed to cook off a brass casing vs an NAS3 casing, Nato nations will begin changing from brass to this stuff. As for Russia or China, we'll see. But I think in 5 years time, in early 2022, it will be rare to see people using brass cased ammo. MAYBE rimfire .22 ammo will stick to brass, but that's about it. In 20 years time, 2037, using brass casings will be positively hipster, perhaps reserved primarily for Cowboy Action Shooting just to try and keep it accurate to the period they're replicating, and people will probably enjoy taking a shot and then immediately picking up the brass casing just to see if it's as hot as the stories say.
I think that sums it up nicely. Cowboy Action Shooting and big fans of history who want to use brass ammo to replicate what civilian shooters and soldiers from decades and over a century ago used. For anyone who actually read all this, what do you think? Figure this stuff will just be a fad and will be rejected for Military use? If so, why? Going to be interesting though; imagine buying milsurp ammo in 20-40 years time and finding date stamps on the rims setting it to the late 2010s or early 2020s, saying to yourself "I remember when this stuff was just invented, and being experimented with by people on Youtube. Some people thought it wouldn't go far, but here it is, in my hand, having sat in storage for so long, even through Korean War II, and now it's mine."
Going to be something else though for how it'll affect ammo costs; to my knowledge, the brass casings have always been the most expensive part of a cartridge. With that expensive part now roughly 33% cheaper, who knows, maybe it'll knock down the price of a box of 50 pistol rounds by 20%. If it cost, say, $20 before (it's been quite a while since I bought ammo, can't remember the cost), now it'll be $16. Did it cost $150 to buy 500 rounds in bulk? Well now it's $120! That's only 24 cents per round! A Glock 19 with 15+1 has less than $4.00 worth of ammo in it!
if u take the bullet from the liberty civil defense 50g +p 9mm its possible to load a 9mm that is less then 100g in total weight of the whole bullet with these cases. primer + case + powder + bullet. now that is what i call amazing. not to mention u can make that original 2000 fps 9mm go faster bc the case will allow for it. if all this works it will change things thats for sure
that's one smart dog.
Awesome, Awesome product. I'm sold and have been since I first heard about this not that long ago. All my 9mm carry guns have mags full of the shellshock + XTP combination from creedmore. I'm looking forward to seeing some .223 cases being released soon.
Will it corrode less than brass over time (aka long storage time)? sorry if you answered this already…I watched the video awhile back and forgot to ask this…
What is the reasoning behind having an aluminum base? The NAS metal is better then brass and brass doesn't even need two pieces for 1 case so why not make the whole thing out of this new metal why do we need aircraft grade aluminum bases?? Wouldn't it be even cheaper with out and lighter too? Why isn't anyone else saying this?!
haha the video ends at 9:19 or 9×19 😄
I'll take brass because I can reload a 9mm case 5-10 times (before I lose them) with cheap $25 lee dies. Steel or aluminum cases tend to be hard on dies and I want nothing to do with cases that provide a weak spot for case head separation.
Will they be making other calibers with shell shock????? It would be nice if they made cases for 5.56 and 223 ammo.
Thumbs-up for saying "cases" and not "casings". Good episode.
Ounces equal pounds, pounds equal pain I like the idea of this ammo.
Cool video, interesting product. Cool dog too! Dogs are the best.
What is environmentally safe primers?? Does that mean they have a shelf life? No more stocking up on ammo?
That is one fine looking canine. He didn't actually move until you triggered him. If you watch his behavior he is scanning while you stroke his back but after you steady your hand he locks on to your target as you point. As you slide your steady hand from the top of his back to his side he engages the target.
Who makes toxic free primers? I'm assuming this means they don't contain lead or antimony. Also I think most stopped using mercury in primers a while ago.
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