Jacques Ellul – The Betrayal by Technology part 1 of 6

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  1. Brian T said:

    Is the French transcript to this video available anywhere? I can't seem to fins it on Google. Thanks!!

    June 26, 2019
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  2. Tony Miller said:

    Elull offers one of the most important reflections and meditations on the world we've inherited. It takes a certain uncoupling from the programmed view that our technological society forms within individual and cultures to even hear his point. Ellul doesn't offer a knee jerk reaction to the advances in technology. Rather, Ellul offers a beautiful and poignant reflect on what has been lost in the midst of assumed gains from so-called technological advancements. What is true progress? Progress depends on one's worldview. Slow down. Listen. Often the most important voices live on the margins of society. Ellul is an important voice. Ellul's message, which is in alignment with the perennial wisdom, contains a timeless message that remains a voice crying in the wilderness. Let those with ears, hear.

    June 26, 2019
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  3. Davide Scianatico said:

    Bonsoir je voudrais savoir si il ya une vidéo sous-titrée en italien. Merci beaucoup.

    June 26, 2019
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  4. Alexis Cardoza said:

    I really liked your videos. ill def subscribe.

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  5. garyweglarz said:

    I'm re-reading Ellul's "The Technological Society," and find myself continually amazed at his ability to see where our technical society was/is taking us.  He was predicting the eventual totalitarian nature of modern U.S. policing and internal monitoring in the name of "security" back in the 1950's based upon the irrepressible demands of technical efficiencies, rather than a coup.  He provides a very thought provoking analysis of many aspects of the too seldom discussed impacts of technology on our humanity and the livability of the planet. 

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  6. hetchiballi said:

    It is entirely possible to have the most advanced tech and still live in villages with vegetable gardens and hens and such.
    One can rotate crops operate a small farm and nurture the soil even using a robotic Google navigated combine.
    We can do ANYTHING. We are mankind.

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  7. AnarchoRepublican said:

    A revue of the comments here proves Ellul correct…merely criticizing technology raises the ire of the conditioned and "technologist" addicted as they are to efficiency..meanwhile most of us modern humans, if you can still call us that, are forced to live faster and faster so-called lives like hamsters on a wheel running a rat race…over breakfast my elderly parents and I lamented that their grandchildren don't even talk any more, only text…far too messy and time consuming to carry on a real conversation…so much for generation to generation wisdom…yes something precious is being lost, namely ourselves…

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  8. Varuna said:

    This guy is a joke. If you want a clue about what technology is and what it does to us read Heidegger.
    Namely 'The Question Concerning Technology' and 'The Turning'.

    June 26, 2019
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  9. Chris Waterguy said:

    If Ellul has something insightful to say, I'm missing it. His questions are occasionally interesting; his discussion rarely is. A thinking engineer would have far more relevant and useful things to say. And Daniel Dennett's thoughts on freedom are much more interesting & pertinent. 

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  10. Joshua W. Jeffery said:

    It is, but might that be intended irony, since technique is "total efficiency"?

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  11. baw0909 said:

    How ironic.

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  12. baw0909 said:

    I disagree. Each and every technological development has within its development an intended purpose. For example, if technology is neutral, we should be able to test this very simply by asking about the neutrality of various technologies: is an atomic bomb neutral? Is a guillotine neutral? Technology is not neutral, technology is developed with purpose and intention.

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  13. SixSixSix said:

    I agree, it seems "unfeasible to dismantle technology for the moment". I think it is more likely that technology is going to dismantle us soon enough, though, haha.
    Moving forward, I think it's time we built nanobots that can then build a better and more sustainable entity than ourselves. Sentient robots with a consciousness that grows exponentially quickly are the future, I think.
    Humanity is just about played-out.

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  14. sgrave1 said:

    i love this men

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  15. Julia Riber Pitt said:

    Great video. I would love to know what Ellul would say about 3D printing and the internet.

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  16. Garry Gromec said:

    Can anyone tell me what is the soundtrack at the beginning of the video? thx

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  17. ManyThai said:

    liberate people by allowing them to create their own work cheaply, are decentralizing, and therefore good. I take more of a "post-civilization" stance than an "anti-civilization" stance. I would recommend you read "Post-Civ!: A Deeper Explanation, by Usul of the Blackfoot.

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  18. ManyThai said:

    I would say it's more accurate to say that my critique is directed more towards centralization than towards civilization, but my criticism applies to industrial civilization, too. What many green anarchists forget when they say that technology isn't neutral (which I agree with) is that, implicit in this, is the assumption that some technologies are inherently good. I believe that technologies like computers and the Internet, since they don't require much division of labor to use, and can

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  19. ManyThai said:

    I agree completely. I've always shared the green anarchists' and green decentralists' resentment for large-scale organization, i.e. industrial civilization, but the anarcho-primitvists' (e.g. Jensen, Quinn, Zerzan) postulates that all technology, language, and science are intrinsically oppressive can be topple pretty easily. And all primitive people weren't exclusively nomadic hunter-gatherers. I do agree, from a different perspective, with their critique of industrial civilization, though.

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  20. Julia Riber Pitt said:

    I understand Ellul's (and Heidegger's, and Baudrillard's, and Zerzan's) arguments against technology and agree with them to a point. However, dismantling technology doesn't seem like a feasible solution, at least for right now anyway.

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  21. firstseasonful said:

    I think technology is totally neutral. The problem is its position in our system as it became incontrovertible.

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  22. Colin Gordon said:

    So, so true

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  23. TheTTBT said:

    Marshall McLuhan discovered four laws which pertain to all media (technology). The law Ellul is discussing is The Reversal of an Overheated Medium. Under pressure all media reverse into their opposite form when too much pressure is exerted on them. A single car represents freedom. 3 Million cars is a reversal into traffic – the opposite of freedom. An airplane reverses into a missile, a light bulb burns out, the cellphone becomes a dog leash. Cash reverses into credit.

    June 26, 2019
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  24. MrSmbass1 said:

    @debtinterest Reading Propaganda now! For the time it was made it is even more relevant now. Peace and love!

    June 26, 2019
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  25. frank sfrank said:

    thumbs up if the Unabomber brought you here

    🙂

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  26. User100606 said:

    (Continued)
    25But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
    26But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
    27So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
    28He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

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  27. User100606 said:

    Like how the shepherd lays the trap of the sheep for the lion, and then rescues the sheep and catches the lion. Similarly God says to be fruitful and multiply, and allows people to build these cities of vice, excess, temptations, and dis-ease, to separate the wheat from the chafe. Ponder on these verses from the Holy Bible, Matthew chapter 13:
    24Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

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  28. User100606 said:

    The only profession that God places us on this Earth for was always agriculture and is always agriculture, specifically the good shepherd. Not just the good shepherd of the Earth, animals, and people in general, but of one's own mind, by living a purely spiritual life free from all negativity in sanctimonious harmony with nature and all peoples, going to the extent of sacrificing oneself as a lamb or sheep so that others may live.

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  29. User100606 said:

    Cain was the first city developer, the first to kill, the first to worship greed, the first to make man-made laws for running society. And we have seen similarly how cities tend to be killing fields, habitations of devils competing out of greed stepping over others and profiting off others pain and sickness, rather than offering the cure. Every single profession in the city takes advantage of others, pushes them farther and farther away from self-sufficiency and honesty.

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  30. User100606 said:

    We can not understand this material world without our sixth sense, which is only available to those who earnestly seek it. Jesus said the Kingdom of Heaven is within yourself. He said ask and you shall receive, seek and you shall find. I have received all that I have earnestly asked for, I have found all that I have earnestly sought for. And I am truly grateful to heaven for giving us this ability to chose to either tap into the positive or negative spiritual powers hidden all around us.

    June 26, 2019
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