Innovation vs Rebranding

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  1. The Aussie Ninja said:

    Here's hoping Ryzen's new found fame can help Radeon graphics, eh? Both in mind share and cash flow.

    May 25, 2019
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  2. Wisp1A DJ UK One A DJ said:

    Size of chip

    May 25, 2019
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  3. Sapphire Spire said:

    AdoredTV sent me here from here: https://youtu.be/H0L3OTZ13Os?t=1829

    May 25, 2019
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  4. gracefool said:

    It's not just the consumer's fault, but also the retailers. They could present cards ranked by actual performance instead of meaningless labels. They're being misleading too – their customers rely on them for advice.

    May 25, 2019
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  5. Crzces said:

    Jim, this video is like ATI/early AMD GPUs. Great at the jobs it is supposed to do but nowhere near the exposure it deserves. A year and a half since it was uploaded and it’s got less than 70k views? But the “Cat Cutie Compilation” is at 37 million views (made up name and view count, but you get the comparison). sigh People aren’t stupid as a whole, it’s mostly ignorance sprinkled with a dash of brand loyalty. Frustrating.

    Hey, at least Nvidia finally released dx12 cards…in the late 3rd quarter of 2018…for absurd amounts of money…

    May 25, 2019
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  6. ItsSpeltGoogol said:

    The MX440 was released in 2002, I was 15. By the 2003 my friends at school and I had chosen our cards to play games, my richest friend had a 9800 (pro?) and ALL of my other friends bought a MX440. I wouldn't buy one, I chose to buy a 9200SE, a card with half the memory bus and memory amount (64MB 64bit). This was actually the very worst card R200 card ATi produced, seemingly deliberately crippling GPU performance by limiting memory bandwidth by halving the memory bus.
    At the time Toms Hardware showed that the totally garbage 9200SE would outperform even a MX460 on games such as Battlefield 1942 and Call of Duty, (which were 2 of my top go-to games at that time) and only took a small loss in Quake3 Arena. Remember I was 16 at the time, there was no way I would just throw around my hard earned money, and research is free.

    May 25, 2019
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  7. sos van eey said:

    in my opninion. game studios should just use the graphics we already have, and let the GPU monopoly fix itself first before they start chasing the newest "graphics and technologies"
    i am 100% ok with cartoony graphics.
    i am also 100% ok with graphics between skyrim(og) and shadow of mordor.
    lets hope some good indie companys keep making great low performance games,so that people dont need those 500-1000buck GPU's.
    thinking about that, wont F2P games have taken a great chunk out of the GPU market too?

    May 25, 2019
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  8. Przem084 said:

    never again nvidia fuckards stell tech from 3dfx brake patents and kill this company … now sell old card say it new …
    REMEBER ati Radeon card by longer yong … have 2+ direct X up all time of nv …

    May 25, 2019
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  9. EscapeVelo said:

    Terrascale was not a new architecture through the 3000, 4000, and 5000 series. It began in the 2000 series, and continued through the 6000 series. That's 5 series with lower end Terrascale cards continuing into the 7000 series and even the 200 series.

    Meanwhile Tesla > Fermi > Kepler > Maxwell over that same period.

    I liked your video, and it made good points with good information, but I just thought it was a bit off on this point.

    May 25, 2019
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  10. Like Clockwork64 said:

    Re-branding is a good thing in more recent times as it improves driver support immensely. The way AMD made GCN made it a massively better architecture for DX10 and DX11 than Terascale which are really best in DX9. You really need something like an R9 290-R9 Fury X with an older quad core or better processor to benefit from DX12 and Vulkan implementation. Multi core processors, especially older ones, really do suffer from 1 core choking up. When using a powerful GPU, not just a fast GPU, your CPU can only feed information so much information to the GPU. It frees up crucial bandwidth to feed the GPU.

    I saw what happened with a FX 6300 and R9 Fury under Vulkan in Doom first hand. It more than doubled the frame rate at ultra settings 1080P. I have never see any setting in a game do this without a loss in image quality.

    Any older title that suffered from CPU bottlenecking should be reprogrammed for an open source OS and Vulkan. You could really get console level optimization out of what would normally be considered obsolete hardware like Core2Quad processors, early i series quads, and Phenoms. Maybe even Athlon x4s

    May 25, 2019
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  11. Mouse6677 said:

    What is the title of video you reference in this video (your best watched one)

    May 25, 2019
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  12. Jordan Nolan said:

    Honestly, this just makes me feel bad for AMD. Mainly because it's not even their fault.

    May 25, 2019
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  13. Supreme_Court said:

    Something I love is when AMD fanboys are perfectly fine with the r-series GPUs, so really every AMD GPU they've sold in the last few years, being rebranded over and over again (and go on and on about "fine wine"), but then act like Nvidia is the devil for rebranding the Titan – a card that almost nobody buys.

    May 25, 2019
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  14. DeScruff said:

    I don't know much about GPUs before the 8800 but I can't help but think one thing:
    Man these naming schemes were confusing, and the re branding didn't help.

    May 25, 2019
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  15. Marios Rouggeris said:

    with the mining craze amd will have the money for more generations

    May 25, 2019
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  16. D Gillies said:

    I visited my sister in Oregon and brought along a GeForce2 MX to put into her computer. It was a fantastic card, for $99 it outperformed everything $150 and below at the time, it really was democratizing gaming for the casual gamer. It's no surprise that they wanted to keep this model in the lineup, just change the 2 to 4 so you can keep selling it.

    May 25, 2019
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  17. Odious Ritual said:

    A major reason for the Polaris Rebranding is that when the 480 released it had unoptimized drivers, All the reviews came out and then AMD fixed the issues with the card, but no new reviews. No new fps graphs. So AMD had to rebrand lol.

    May 25, 2019
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  18. Leon Pozo said:

    I know this sounds a bit lame .. But since i started binge watching your videos last month, I don't want to spend my money on Intel or Nvidia. I do consider myself a bit savy when buying the best for the money. But i did not realise how deep the rabbit hole went when it came to how blindingly people buy Nvidia over ATI/AMD.. I started off on Intel with my P3 450.. Then it was Amd athlon then opteron to the e6600/Q6600/e8400. Then first gen i5 750 to the i7 960.. … The the good old 2600k which i just swapped for the better bang for buck and hopfully keep as long r7 1700.. My gfx cards have gone a simular way… Riva tnt2 to an ati 9500 soft modded to a 9700. Then i got the 9800xt. then i got an x1800 to x1900 to the 1950xtx.. Then i got the 8800GTX! then i bought the 9800gx2 which died so i got a nvidia 275 from RMA. Then i finally got the 5870! best upgrade i ever felt i got. kept that all way to getting a GTX680 side graded to a r9 280x then invested in a rx 480 then got a cheap 980ti lol which i am on now. But after all i have seen i just want to stay A MD all the way. For my main PC tho i will always go best bang/performance for buck, tho i have 4 kids and they all have PCs.. And buying an RX 560 over a 1050ti is a hard one…… But with R3 coming cpus will be an easier option tho they all do fine.

    May 25, 2019
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  19. Himson Li said:

    A dark story unfolds just like Far Cry 2's setting. You are the Jackal.

    May 25, 2019
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  20. Matt Theriot said:

    Even though Nvidia is still outselling AMD's RX 400/500 line, AMD seems almost completely sold out/out of stock.

    Can't they just make more cards and make more money? This video was made 2 months ago, so maybe the landscape has changed, but right now 480's and 580's are going for ~$350 Minimum in all the markets I've checked.

    All of this, and AMD"s infinity framework makes me really excited for Vega. I have a RX 480 and love it and I can't wait to see if Vega is a good deal so I can have a high end AMD card.

    May 25, 2019
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  21. volkswagenginetta said:

    you want to know something else that is horrible about this? This information is so easy to get these days. Any gpu any game with just about any processor there is a benchmark for. People can just look it up, but they don't.

    May 25, 2019
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  22. 25eshu said:

    vulkan api dx12 sounds familiar

    May 25, 2019
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  23. Rui PTG said:

    you know what… i could never find an RX 470 at a good price… but im seeing an RX 570 at a price that seems like a steal. I think im going for it!

    May 25, 2019
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