Arc’teryx Presents – Who We Are: The Science Behind Gore-Tex


There’s lots of waterproof
materials out there, and we’ve tried them all. We continue to work with Gore
because it’s just better. It’s waterproof. It’s breathable. And it’s more durable. It’s the best in the world. [MUSIC PLAYING] Gore is a raw materials
supplier of what is called a finish laminate. The majority of them are
three layer laminates, which would have a face textile,
a back or technology, and then a membrane. And it’s glued
together, in essence. That membrane is made out
of polytetrafluoroethylene. And easier term to use
for that is Teflon. Gore actually
expands the Teflon, or stretches it,
and expanded PTFE is the key component of
all the membranes that we put in all of our laminates. EPTFE allows body moisture
to get through the garment, yet it won’t allow
water molecules to penetrate it, which
keeps it 100% waterproof. So you can move
your body moisture away while completely dry
from the outside elements. [MUSIC PLAYING] And Gore took some
unique risks with us. We were one of the
only brands that’s ever been given a Gore
license, having never built a piece of apparel,
let alone a GORE-TEX jacket. When we wanted to
get into apparel, we went to Gore with
all these different ways of making the product that
were different than what they experienced. And this was foreign to them. The Arcteryx was such a leader
and innovator in the industry, and I think at a time when the
industry needed some folks, it kind of broke
through the mold and was trying to think very
differently about performance. They had set the standards
to other manufacturers, and say, you make
a jacket this way. And here we were coming,
going no, no, no. We want to make it different. It challenged us to be
better as an organization. And I think it raised the
bar for the entire industry in terms of the
kinds of performance that could be achieved. It’s fairly difficult to
get a license from Gore. We work with only
established brands. So it was a leap of faith for
us to give them a license. We liked the creative
energy that they had for the innovation. And they actually designed
a jacket, the Alpha SV, that, for me, transformed
the market, because they reduced the weight of
that outdoor jacket by about 300 grams. Many of the advancements
we’ve made have gone to Gore and they’ve studied them. And then they’ve come across
new ways of making that and come back to us
and said, well, here’s a material now that because
of what we learned here is fundamentally better
than what we had before. And an example of that is the
tape width on GORE-TEX jackets used to be an inch. And the standard was that
you couldn’t make anything unless you used
this big, fat tape. And we thought that the big,
fat tape had a lot of downsides. And so we narrowed it. And the only way we could
get Gore to acknowledge that narrowing the tape was
going to be a viable option is we had to have 10 years of
hard core field tested jackets with forensically carbon datable
Sharpie marks on the inside to get anywhere close
to those guys saying, OK, you can narrow the tape. You know, we have
dedicated people within Gore that
work only with us. They add a great deal of value
to us as an organization. I think with
Arcteryx, there’s been a commitment, which requires
risk on both parts, right? We’re going to each
share information that obviously may be
sensitive to come up with the best product. And I think we don’t take
those partnerships lightly. We probably share a lot
more of our technologies with Arcteryx than we
do with other companies. We have access to
folks that we normally don’t in a customer-supplier
relationship. So our R&D team at Gore
has extensive connections to the senior R&D
leaderships at Arcteryx. I think what that
allows Arcteryx to do is just plan for
not only next year, but three to five years out. I’d argue Arcteryx is among, if
not the hardest pushing Gore. There’s a lot of
knowledge and capabilities on the Arcteryx side
that Gore believes in. So it does come back to a
strong position of trust on both sides. Yeah, we can be a
pain and can push them all the times,
but our design staff and the incredible knowledge
of why waterproofed breathables work well or not well. And we can provide
that expertise to help work with Gore as
they develop new products. [MUSIC PLAYING] GORE-TEX garments
and Arcteryx garments can end up climbing Mt. Everest, or they can end up
walking in New York City. We want to make sure that we
understand all the range of end uses, and then design to ensure
that the performance ends up across all of those different
types of conditions. So what we can do
uniquely is that we can understand, measure,
and predict comfort across a range of scenarios. In order to do that,
you need a range and a very rigorous
garment level analysis. And that’s what we can
provide fairly uniquely here. Once we do our tests,
Arcteryx will get that garment into the mountains. Arcteryx is based in
the coast mountains, which is wet and cold. And these products are tested
right in the wilderness. And we get really fast
feedback from users on how to make them better
and continue innovation into the future. We push our garments
to the edge. And there has been many
times where our design team has taken Gore
prototypes of technology that they were working on,
pushed them to the limits, and made them fail. And our ability to give
them that real world field experience, but then really push
hard on them to make it better, has been a really powerful
thing for both companies. It’s amazing how much the
teams rely on each other. I don’t think we
could extricate Gore from Arcteryx or vise versa. I think we’re totally
tied at the hip. From a Gore and
Arc relationship, they are two companies
going after the same thing. If you don’t do one well,
the other one can’t survive. I want to make sure
that we’re putting our best materials in the
best garment designs possible. You can take a great
material and put it into a terribly
designed garment and you don’t get any of the
benefits of that material. There’s a really deep mutual
respect and trust there, and we’re really proud. And it’s an amazing partnership. [MUSIC PLAYING]

64 Comments

  1. ARTM91 KZMNKA said:

    cheer up!
    I admire your company, you do very technological, high-quality, long-lasting things, thank you for that! very much would like to become a part of your team, please people with your products! my dream to work in your company, please make me happy! thank you! ARC'TERYX ONE LOVE!

    September 14, 2018
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  2. Patrick O said:

    Best of the Best, Arc'love it.

    December 11, 2018
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  3. 09876543345678 said:

    Have there ever been any studies on the leaching of xenoestrogens from the GORE-TEX onto human skin?

    December 11, 2018
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  4. Dan B said:

    Who will buy who?

    December 11, 2018
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  5. esAqos said:

    Nice video. Wasn't the newest version of Alpha SV released in 2017?

    December 11, 2018
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  6. Mārtiņš S. said:

    I’m such a sucker for hight tech marketing! 😍

    December 11, 2018
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  7. Александр Забелин said:

    Guys! This is just an amazing video. Thanks for the high level of everything.
    Alex, TECHUNTER magazine.

    December 13, 2018
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  8. Ganga Dharan said:

    It's really amazing….great work 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑

    December 14, 2018
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  9. Danilo Pineda-Bustamante said:

    So this is why Acronym is so expensive. Imagine Arc'teryx quality mixed with designer fashion.

    December 15, 2018
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  10. renzhi lin said:

    arcteryx is amazing, but not famous in europe market, en amazon europe drop a lot of prices, so i got more than 10 jacket from there to my family and friend in unbieliable low price, the material and the quality is way better than haglofs and mammut in europe, thanks to europe people who know nothing about this brand.

    December 15, 2018
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  11. depellerinluc said:

    All made in China.

    December 16, 2018
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  12. Cooper said:

    All i see is white rich people exploiting asians

    December 16, 2018
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  13. Vittorio Rubens Damoli said:

    BUT WHAT THE FUCK YOUR SYMBOL IS?

    December 16, 2018
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  14. gattology30cal said:

    "who we are"…..Hummm. Go stop by their booth at a trade show and you will know exactly who they are. A bunch of arrogant assholes with way overpriced shit.

    December 17, 2018
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  15. trukrupes said:

    Then have someone manufacture offshore without quality control and thin tape and voila! You have my Theta jacket, being returned for the 2nd time to be repaired.

    December 17, 2018
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  16. MrDmitry4ever said:

    wear therme parka just for the 2nd season and already have tiny bend holes on the sleeves, pretty disappointing =

    December 17, 2018
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  17. Onefoot Atatime said:

    Nice video
    Maybe I have had the wrong manufacturers with my raincoats
    Everyone has failed with goretex leaking like a siv in some cases more like a colander.
    I’m one that wears shorts so most rainwear doesn’t cover my bum. So I end up with a wet bum and the weather whistles through. This may sound a bit controversial that I don’t wear longs. With longs it’s not fun crossing rivers and creeks as the longs can pull me down under and into the current

    What I am looking for is a raincoat that protects my bum when I’m carrying my pack. No armpit zips (as they will at some stage) one internal pocket and weighs no more than 500grams and lasts 5 years if I use 200 days per years
    🤔 yes I’m a dreamer
    Cheers

    December 18, 2018
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  18. Barbary Lion said:

    Dear Arcteryx,

    I'm so happy to be a part of the arcteryx community I have many products of arcteryx from jackets to shoes and from shoes to the best backpack in the world.

    Only the customer service is bad really bad.

    when I get the message from the shop bever.nl to pickup my jacket I was so happy I thought arcteryx will replace my damaged jacket. When I saw my jacket back in the same bad condition I was so in shock that they dont replace the jacket instead of a new piece.

    After using the Theta AR jacket for 24 months my jackets is dead I have send it back to arcteryx Europe they have repair it with small amounts of glue. Shame really a shame.

    My self and my wife have spend more then €30.000 in the last 7 years on arcteryx products and now you will loose me because you dont giving me a new replacement jacket after 24 month the jacket is dead that is not what it must be.

    I'm feeling my self so bad it feels like that I'm robbed.

    I hope that arcteryx comes with a good solution the shop Bever.nl can do nothing for me than send the jacket back to the repair service centre from arcteryx in the Netherlands.

    Greetings from your best biggest fan a customer from the Netherlands.

    December 18, 2018
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  19. Kearress said:

    The Truth About 'Waterproof Breathable':
    https://mountainwagon.com/the-blog/the-truth-about-waterproof-breathable

    December 20, 2018
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  20. Mo Smith said:

    Best DWR for Gore-tex?

    December 22, 2018
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  21. Fernando Sanchez said:

    "EPTFE allows body moisture to get through the garment, yet it won't allow water molecules to penetrate it". So "body moisture" is not made of water molecules, right?. If you want to use technical jargon for marketing, at least take the time to chose your words carefully.

    December 23, 2018
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  22. James Simpson said:

    REI is now completely reliant on Gore now as well.

    December 24, 2018
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  23. Matthew Duryea said:

    Fascinating. My only wish is this video was longer and more detailed.

    December 24, 2018
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  24. ryan webb said:

    The girl from @1:36 is the same from this video
    https://youtu.be/o_sbnMFdWl0

    December 26, 2018
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  25. Scott Gibson said:

    I owned your over priced made in China gear, never again. If you need the look, go for it, when I am deep in the hardwoods ripping the pow no one cares what gear you wear. I will admit I liked your gear it just did not hold up.

    January 2, 2019
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  26. freedom life said:

    Hi Arc'teryx I bought a women's Parktera jacket from your website and went 7 hours hiking in the smoky mountains. It was snowy, icy, wet, and cold my jacket was soaked. Is it waterproof? Do I need to spray DWR on it?

    January 3, 2019
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  27. kkantner said:

    I wish i would have seen this video before i bought their product. DAY 2 of wearing a new jacket I scrapped a tree on one of their small tape seems. Jacket ripped and as i skied the rest of the day the wind continued to rip the jacket over 36" inches in total. I contacted customer support and they offered to send me some tape to tape it up myself…. I bought from them because i thought they had the best product and best service…. Guess i was wrong.

    January 3, 2019
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  28. Pedals Lodermeier said:

    Over priced garments that doesn't hold up to regular wear and tear same with Marmot single stitch instead of double or triple stitching.

    January 4, 2019
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  29. Mr JONES said:

    This is all new to me. Is the material work better than the Mountain Hardwear DrQ elite?

    January 4, 2019
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  30. Always Wandering said:

    performance over durability – 3rd item sent back after only 1.5 years useage and holes have appeared, stichting come lose and zips stopped working. Crap warranty ensures I'll never buy again.

    January 4, 2019
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  31. Shibz said:

    North Face Goretex 💯 The way

    January 5, 2019
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  32. Simon Berntsson said:

    There are other materials. Gore is just more "marketable" so you can put a high price.

    January 6, 2019
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  33. ChilledTea said:

    cuz putting a dinosaur fossil on ur clothes will sell

    January 6, 2019
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  34. Shady Man said:

    Is there an
    Arc'teryx jacket for rainy, hot and humid weather?

    January 8, 2019
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  35. hunter carp said:

    너무 비싸!!! Very~ very very very expensive!!!!!!

    January 8, 2019
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  36. King kazma said:

    Some of their jackets are 1000$+

    January 9, 2019
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  37. ibec69 said:

    Both pairs of my gore-tex shoes were not waterproof after one year of use. Maybe it works in jackets but I think the forces inside a shoe walking creates are too much for the fabric and it starts tearing after a while. It should have a functional life longer than a year in my opinion.

    January 11, 2019
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  38. Mark Jacobs said:

    Hi, I wear Arc so I'm better, richer and smarter than you.

    Actually I wear 20 year old, duct taped, Marmot gear…because I actually believe in sustainability and don't NEED the overpriced jacket of the month.

    January 15, 2019
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  39. Patrick Reilly said:

    Goretex combat boots nothing better. Xusn

    January 22, 2019
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  40. Danny Graham said:

    Surprised you'll don't mention once that teflon / gortex is a carcinogenic material…. But who cares if we are staying dry!

    January 24, 2019
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  41. Technopancakez said:

    Teflon is really bad for you

    January 24, 2019
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  42. Nick King-Edwards said:

    We just continue to work with gore brah. 🤣

    January 24, 2019
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  43. William Brindel said:

    Bla bla bla

    January 25, 2019
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  44. Kevin Chan said:

    Pro tip: If you live in Canada be sure to checkout retailers like atmosphere, sport check after season as they give out some unbelieveable discounts. I got my AT Sawyer jacket for half off. It was marked at $420 from 600, after I rung it in it came out to only $300. If you live in the vancouver area I envy you because of your proximity to the AT outlet.

    January 26, 2019
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  45. TatankaIXc said:

    "The science behind high price products made in China" … please

    January 30, 2019
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  46. seishun69 said:

    yarwn. lets talk about visvim´s use of gore (like harris tweed x gt)…and show me a company that has used gore-tex more extensively than them pls.

    February 5, 2019
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  47. Carol Symons said:

    Would love to have a alpha Sv just too much expensive for me but wow what a video too see how the best jackets in the world are made and how arcteryx care x

    February 6, 2019
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  48. Branden's Outdoor Channel said:

    Arc'Teryx is my favorite brand but also like Mountain Hardwear.

    February 7, 2019
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  49. P C said:

    No one told me my jacket was soaked in teflon. When should i expect the cancer and birth defects to kick in?

    February 9, 2019
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  50. NautiluS said:

    Can I join your testing team?

    February 10, 2019
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  51. Dubleau W said:

    Poor people. Fck off.
    Thats all I can see.

    February 11, 2019
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  52. Tiger25NYC Brooklyn said:

    Gore Tex doesn’t stay clean easily I have the Nike team USA Olympic jacket and it gets dirty easy it is water proof I will say that.

    February 13, 2019
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  53. K. Jackson Ethier said:

    Question: If Goretex is the same technology, just licensed out to other companies, why the hike in price from comparable products from Patagonia, North Face, etc.?

    Answer:
    a. Pretense
    b. Incredible marketing

    February 13, 2019
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  54. Ivan Ryabin said:

    I’ve swithed to sympatex jacket and not going back- roughly same waterproofing/breathebility but its stretchable and machine washable

    February 14, 2019
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  55. bla blabla said:

    Try ventil , old and proven

    February 14, 2019
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  56. Dawn2Dusk Adventuring said:

    As a former US Marine I lived in Goretex for years. I can’t stress the punishment we put that material through. Hearing how the parter ship arcteryx has with gore sold me on buying. I’m a huge fan of simple and functionality.

    February 20, 2019
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  57. selcuk fındık said:

    you need to convince consumer that TEFLON (PTFE) is not detrimental or cancerogen…i think i am gonna stick with Fjallraven bertagen ECO shell 2.0

    March 7, 2019
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  58. Connell MacCool said:

    Sadly so dam expensive!

    March 11, 2019
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  59. Alison Yokanovich said:

    I love there jackets, I have bought 6 or 7 of them

    March 18, 2019
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  60. Matthew Sharples said:

    We can all agree that Gore is not breathable right?

    April 30, 2019
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  61. cfcreative said:

    I will never buy Teflon or gore tex read up about the scandals surrounding Dupont.

    May 6, 2019
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  62. Andrius Venius said:

    Tolles Video!

    October 8, 2019
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  63. wilderness and me said:

    "Gore" for jackets. "Hypersmooth" for action cam. "4k" smartphone camera. The list goes on…. Marketing strategy sales at its best!

    October 9, 2019
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  64. Dave said:

    I love how they show these European or American facilities producing these jackets when the actual jackets say made in China or El Salvador… And the whole we only choose select only established brands because we trust them. Has nothing to do with artificially increasing prices of trade marked synthetic plastics.

    October 24, 2019
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