2016 EPSO ICT Exams (EPSO/AD/331/16) Information Webcast

a very good evening to everyone this is unresponded speaking from brussels at the live addition of today's webinar or webcast for the episode exams for 2016 information and communication technology experts competition and let me do a quick sound check with my colleague lanka who is sitting in our budapest office and she's checking the technology on the receiving end and she's typing that the sound is good so hopefully all of you can hear me very well if there is any concern problem or you have questions about the content I'm going to be sharing with you type it in the chat box on your webinar screen and if you happen to be listening to the recording you can just send us an email we'll always be very happy to answer you so we'll spend about the next 55 minutes or one hour discussing this fascinating competition which finally finally episode has announced because a long time has without any significant exam or very interesting exam especially for IT and technology experts so today we are discussing the so-called episode a d3 30 1/16 competition which includes six profiles and we'll look at those in a bit more detail after a couple of slides so as I mentioned before we case you miss something you will receive the full recording of today's presentation and especially this the Prezi slides so you can zoom in zoom out and go back to any of the details that you may have missed and we're also going to do a transcript so you can read it print it go back to the nitty-gritty details that I'm sharing with you in the next 55 minutes about the absolute competition I said before type of terms into the box or send us email we're always happy to answer we have a community because we've been around almost 10 years helping ambitious to be you of Scholz past the selection competitions that episode has been running for quite some time join our Facebook group if you haven't yet done that we have 47,000 fans and we try to share both light and serious content make sure that you are always up to date and we are your number one source and resource when it comes to the competitions and finding ways to pass notes and that's the very reason why we develop a question database that now has over 25,000 items in it in 16 languages and over 17 million questions have been used I'm always fascinated by this number that our community is very eager to pass the competitions as several hundreds if not thousands of them are now working at various European institutions which is something that really makes us very happy and proud now webinars are also there for you to check out on a youth training we have over hundred hours of recorded both free and paid webinars on different methodologies and we had about 5000 participants whether the live or the recorded ones whether it's verbal reasoning whether it's understanding the assessment centre are different aspects that you can tap into and dig very very deep and understanding methodology to really have a high score at the exams and succeed so with that in mind today's agenda in a nutshell we're going to cover about eight different elements and one is a few words about the day in the life of someone who works as an EU official in the ICT or IT area and then we transit to the various positions that are available and most of this you certainly know already if you have had a look at the notice of competition but let's do a quick run-through and interpret the sometimes difficult description of these competitions and then we look at the tricky or sensitive question whether you are eligible to apply for this competition followed by a part but why is it a great opera I probably don't need to preach to the converted but still it's worth mentioning what the salary expectations and other benefits could be and then we look at the most crucial part the pre selection test or selection tests as we'll see why those two might differ and the talent screener followed by a few words on the assessment center and then finally words about preparation the most important part to succeed and pass this very competitive EU selection exam and then in the very end I'll be happy to share with you a time-limited special exclusive offer if you decide to prepare with our services so with that in mind let's get to the very first part and as I said before type questions that Blanca will try to convey to me and send us email if you think about those questions after the webcast we're always happy to answer that obviously completely free of charge that's something what we do to help our community so a day in the life of an EU official it's probably it starts with the question where am I going to work and the place of work is a no-brainer in the sense that it's it's muscles or Luxembourg's transferred even though the European Parliament's official seat is in Strasbourg you are most likely going to work in Brussels or in this case of this particular competition it's more likely that Luxembourg will be the place of your employment because a lot of the services that the European Commission have or gets from the IT and Enterprise Resource Planning IT security area are placed in Luxembourg and we'll talk a little bit about the language aspect of which languages are expected to know and it's something I'll come back to a few slides later so having seen that the question is which institution you might be working at and there's a distinction that needs to be made between selection and recruitment often episo– is referred to as the EU s– recruitment office and for a sake of simplicity that is somewhat true but the terminology is not entirely accurate because episode doesn't recruit absol selects their aim and objective is to create the resort 'lest the reserve list of eligible candidates who can then be recruited to one of the seven european union institutions and those seven are the ones you see on the screen European Commission European Parliament Council of Ministers the European Court of Justice court of Auditors committee of regions and the European Economic and Social Committee but then again even if in principle you could be recruited to any of these seven institutions in practice you will most likely be hired by the European Commission given the nature and approach of this particular competition and the the question whether you are going to be employed by one of these institutions it's decided only at the moment of recruitment so you cannot say in advance that I want to work worked or European or the body turns because if they don't have a specific need then they will not be able to recruit you but it's not something you should be concerned about at all at this stage you should focus on the competition more specifically the selection procedure so with that in mind let's look at the six sub profiles in question and the these are the ones you certainly have had a chance to look at from starting from data analysis and IT service digital workplace enterprise resource planning ERP ICT security IT infrastructure IT portfolio program management now the important thing here is that you can only apply to one field so if your background is in ERP but you would certainly qualify for ICT security as well because you have the education and/or the work experience in both of those fields you need to make a decision you need to make up your mind which of these two will you apply for and that decision is probably your very first numerical reasoning exercise because you're trying to evaluate a lot of variables namely your own personal preference or assuming that you would be just as happy dealing with ERP than with ICT and you're just as qualified and have the experience then you might want to look at the number of places available and then estimating or more specifically estimating how many candidates might apply for that particular profile so if you have the luxury to choose then certainly these considerations will go into your decision matrix or to be app your decision making algorithm application that 9 10th of January and that is no joke one of the reasons we always urge and encourage candidates to apply at least a few days in advance is that there's always the rush of candidates on the day of the deadline and if you really wait until the very last minute you might miss your bus your computer crashes or sometimes even episodes very own servers can crash maybe that's part of the reason why they are hiring a lot of IT security new staff that's just a side note and bottom line is don't leave it to the last minute make sure that you you put enough thinking and enough consideration into your application especially because this is a so-called specialist competition and you will need to fill in a so-called talent screener and the talent screener is no joke we're gonna get to that and I'll share with you a couple of ideas why that needs to be taken very seriously so with the six profiles you need to make up your mind and only apply for one of them and then take the deadline very seriously even in light of the upcoming winter Christmas and other holidays language rules another interesting aspect and another important thing to bear in mind we talked about first language and a second language and that is not necessarily in terms of how well you speak a given language first language tends to be defined as a language in which you're proficient user or in a little bit little more colloquial terms that would be a language your mother tongue as long as it's an EU official language so I usually give the example that if you are in the Baltics and maybe your mother tongue is Russian it wouldn't qualify as an official language because it's not among the 24 official EU languages so you need to pick one of those whether it's polish Maltese Hungarian Swedish any other language you pick that one and language number two is a language in which you're an independent user and that means English or French now you can certainly appreciate the or in between these two languages so it's not and it's definitely more so if you are french-speaking so that's your first language in that case it has to be English as a second language or if you are in you choose English as your first language then it has to be friends but this is pretty much the exception and not the rule so if you happen to be Swedish Portuguese or grief speaker than your second language is up to you whether it's English or French now those of you who have read the notice of competition will have noticed that there's this interesting foot note or fine tune or small text included in that that if you end up working in Luxembourg most of the local IT service suppliers or the external companies servicing the Commission are french-speaking so you should speak French now this is not a formal criterion in the application that's very important to note so the notice of competition consistently says English or French and not English and French and that's very important to keep in mind you're not required to speak French at the time of the application it's quite likely that you will be expected to learn French once you are recruited but that is only in that moment so if you take this very seriously moment you might want to sign up to suffrage courses but it's certainly not a precondition of eligibility and it doesn't impact your exam so this again with the 24 languages one of the EU official languages and then looking at English or French as the actual exam language in which you will sit those test citizenship always the same rule so 28 EU Member States that obviously includes the United Kingdom as well because it's just as it's a member just like any other at least in legal terms and you need to have the citizenship of one of these so for the available positions any you citizen can apply we talked about this and the number of places varies from one profile to another you see that ERP has 14 ICT security 49 IT infrastructure 38 so that again this may have an impact on your choice which of the six you may go for with a very important caveat that you need to have the relevant work experience in those fields so if you are uncertain whether your experience working for telecom company or you were doing website or you with doing security audits or you were working at consultancy make sure that you can really answer those questions in the talent screener which we'll get to in a moment in the most common in a concrete and very credible way making sure that you are not going to get lower scores just because you overthought which profile you should apply for so with that in mind a few words about why this is a great opportunity again I don't want to overkill the idea it's definitely an attractive job offered mostly or partly depending on your perspective for the salaries because 87 EU official net salary would be somewhere around 5,000 euros and money and there could be other allowances such as expected allowance depending on where you were recruited from at the time of actual recruitment depending on whether you have children spouse and whether your spouse works or not so benefits would include health insurance and for the children European schools or other forms of education now let's look at the actual exam and look at the pre selection phase though the word pre might be put in parentheses so the pre selection phase you have these three so-called psychometric tests which are the verbal reasoning numerical reasoning and abstract reasoning the pass mark there's an objective pass mark for all three in a way that the verbal reasoning you need to get at least 50% of the score that they even consider you as a candidate and for the numerical reasoning and the abstract reasoning there's a combined pass mark again an objective pass mark it doesn't depend on how well other candidates did or didn't do so you need to reach at least 50% of the American abstract reasoning score in order to be still considered in the competition but let's look at a little bit deeper at the different conditions and the application process now in the application process once you decide to sign up create an episode profile or candidate profile on the episode website you will need to fill in the so-called talent screener what is a common screener talent screener as the name suggests it's trying to evaluate your professional qualifications and your professional experience that it's relevant and it fits the job description that you will eventually be doing so talent screener is a bunch of questions a list of questions about your formal qualification and work experience that you need to answer and provide as much information as humanly possible in the most convincing manner that the evaluators members of the selection board will be able to decide that you are a relevant candidate how is it Alan Streeter scored it's fairly straightforward each of the questions that you'll be facing there will have first yes/no to them and as long as you say yes then you're requested to fill in with information not all questions are created equal so there's a weighing to each of the talent screener questions which is something that usually will not know occasionally they might pretend it's usually the decision of the selection board and they decide whether a certain question about say your qualifications is worth a coefficient of two whereas another question is is Wade with multiplier of three so that depends on the importance of a given question and usually the scoring runs from zero to four so you can get zero points as to a certain answer and you can get four and again this is not a knowledge-based test it's not about understanding what makes a penetration test functional this is not the question the question is about your specific background and experience so how do you maximize your talents for your score and this question immediately I need to say a disclaimer that we are hundred percent urging you and even asking you to make sure that you're always ethical that you are absolutely truthful and you never make up any information that is not rooted in reality having said that it's really important that you present that information in a way that the evaluators or members of the selection board we'll be able to understand and relate to it and score it that will reflect on you in the best possible light so these two things are completely compatible with each other because if you are the next Bill Gates and you know anything and everything about computers but you cannot present that in a way that remember the episode selection board is able to turn that into to match it with the job profile match it with the description of the tasks that you will be required to perform if and when you are recruited if they cannot do that you might lose valuable points so here are a few tips and ideas that I'll share with you and in a more detailed format this is also available on our website and it's something that I or we in the follow up emails will be sharing with you the link to that article and hopefully you'll find that useful but let's look at a couple of tips and I'll give you a bit of background to each number one is try to answer yes as much as possible but only if you can back it up with truthful and relevant information so if you are hesitant whether you qualify for a certain thing or whether you really have that relevant experience you might wanna say yes and then provide the information and let the evaluators decide whether it's really ticking the right box because if you say no because you're too shy you're too are too humble that will certainly exclude you even from the possibility of getting a score for that particular question another point is provide lots of valuable information but only give relevant and meaningful answers so space fillers are not the way to go this is not about writing a lot this is about data this is about facts this is about achievements this is about specific projects that you learn tell whenever you have the right background make sure to say it but don't put flop into it and say I was extremely motivated to explore this new programming language language because I attended a workshop on agile or I attended a workshop on the latest JavaScript that's not the way to go facts numbers information next thing is concrete versus abstract answer so the scores are based on hard evidence and exactly what I've mentioned before that you need to back it up with vigorous with places and tapes and if you were let's say in a consultancy it's pretty sure you've worked on a number of projects provide that information what was the value of the project what were what were their key requirements what was your contribution to it how did you interact with the client or how did it work with the with the user interface Teagan how do you connect with these those operating the server's whatever relevant detail you can share make sure you do that so don't say that I have an in-depth knowledge about safe JavaScript well fine but what is in depth knowledge what is in depth knowledge for you may not be in depth knowledge for the person reading that so make sure that you are sufficiently concrete let's look at the next one readability and clear communication will influence their understanding of your background so structured layout with bullet points clear references short back to the point descriptions so flow text might be much harder to decode much harder to interpret on the side of the reader so make sure that even such a seemingly unimportant thing as using bullets and a nice visual structure can impact the impression about your background and one very important thing to keep in mind is that eating institutions and have some really formal and terminology driven so if they require you or those applying for a specific profile in this competition to have a certain knowledge a programming methodology about an enterprise resource planning software then you need to make sure that you correspond in your talent screener answers to those requirements so make sure that you don't remain abstract or don't just hint at a certain thing really make and keep that series next thing in the talent screener what's in it for that make sure that you always link your experience with the work of the institution or broadly speaking you institutions that you are applying for so the last in this little part of the talent screener and as I mentioned we'll be sharing you a link that do not copy/paste previous answers so if even if you have the same experience it might be presented from a different angle so if you get asked about your your knowledge when it comes to project management or program software and coding and managing the project side of that and another question asks from a very different angle what's your experience in handling large scale IT projects maybe it's the very same experience you'll present but you'll present that from a very different angle because one was more in the substance whereas the second one could be on your working methodology and your ability to coordinate larger teams and I see that we have two questions let me quickly answer those if your work experience is partly in a telecoms company but you've worked for their software division how do you present it a software ICT or telecoms I believe the substance of your world meaning software is what really matters it even if I worked in a charity but my work was being responsible for their servers and their and their email systems I need to focus on the servers and the email system not on the charity activity of that organization so that one answer in a nutshell the other one is that can we see a real example of high-performing Talent screener with real answers and great I'm afraid not in this webinar but apart from that article we all for a bit of feedback were helped with with the talents trainer again making sure that this all happens in fully clear and ethical manner and we also have coach coaches who can assist you if you have other specific questions so with that in mind let's go on to the next one which is eligibility are you eligible for that given competition so it's an 87 won and that also means that it's not only 7 but it's also specialist competition and being the specialist competition means they have various years and numbers that you need to put together so basically you need a certain number of years of education relevant education plus what end would an end with a degree plus a certain number of years of work experience of which 3 years or a certain number of years need to have been spent in the chosen field so certain number of years of education plus work experience of which a certain number of years were done in your chosen field so we summarize here all the different scenarios that that be that the system that the notice of competition has outlined so you see all these variations of four years plus six out of which you have three so that's altogether ten or you can have three years plus seven experience of which four or four plus 10 and 3 plus 11 so you have various various combinations which are described in more detail in the notice of competition but you get the idea that you need to have that sort of background so assuming you have the formal eligibility so you have the right citizenship which we presume all of you have you have chosen the right languages and you have the formal qualifications and work experience that will qualify you for this job and then comes the pre selection where the word pre is not necessarily there what do I mean by that what I mean is that the pre selection so namely the verbal reasoning numerical reasoning abstract reasoning task may or may not be required in at the very beginning of the process what is the variable that decides whether or not that you need to do that while that variable is the number of applicants that variable is are there going to be so many applicants for this particular competition that they will do a pre selection that's if there are not so many applicants and so many is sort of defined by episode as a certain multiplier of the number of available places so altogether there are 180 places and a sort of our assumption if there are more than 500 600 maybe 800 applicants in that case they will require you to sit a pre selection test but if there are not so many applicants then they will have you sit these tests but it's part a little later part of the Assessment Center so it can either be a pre selection or just a psychometric test which you will be prior to see so you need to do this in either case but for the pre selection the bar is a little higher because that means there are a lot of other applicants and it and you really need to perform very well in order to be considered for subsequent stages so all of these three are done in your language one so if your Spanish if your Romanian if your grief if your Slovenian whatever your language may be that's the language in which you'll sit these exactly now the most relevant obviously the verbal reasoning because that's where you really need to understand the text and rubbery how does it look you can see samples of episodes website on our very own website as well you have 20 questions in 35 minutes so you can see that it's a little less than two minutes per question there's always a text passage there's a followed by a question with four statements and only one is the correct answer so the trick there is there's always some sort of outside information and you need to decide whether you need to consider that or not and the rule of thumb is you need to focus only on the verbal reasoning passage but not on your own knowledge about that field so given an example if there is an article about the u.s. elections you may have read a lot about that you should forget those articles and information you have and focus only on what's written in the purple reasoning question often they operate with generalizations often the possibility or suspect so they would put it up could maybe possibly these sort of words and then the answer might refer to a certainty so this can be misleading and may lead you astray and then similar wording using all sorts of synonyms and other words I see that there are many questions coming in and I'll try to tackle some of them in a moment but let's just look at the numerical reasoning where again is a reasoning it's a logical exercise you have two minutes per question and there is always a chart so you have these nice tables where the trick is you need to identify which cell which piece of information which data do you need to consider to quickly and efficiently answer the question so in the numerical reasoning you interpret the data you reason ideally you estimate you don't necessarily calculate even though you are given an on-screen calculator and finally the calculator whatever you do it mentally or you do it with the on-screen calculator but that's when you arrive at the right solution so numerical reasoning is probably what is closest to your very own profession working in IT ICT and telecoms and ERP even and then you have the abstract reasoning which as the name suggests is really like an abstract series and an IQ test in a certain sense because you need to identify patterns you need to identify shapes and different movement within those shapes or rotations filled or not filled fields where you need to find the right answer so here you have a fairly simple sequence and you look at the black dot you look at the square you try to real identify and understand whether these two are interrelated is there a logic between their own movement from both or more or each is moving in their own path so these are the questions you will be looking at and you have one minute per question that's what make abstract reasoning very difficult it's not so much the built-in difficulty but rather the short timespan so here you see where it's moving short turning so this is the pre selection or the psychometric selection test which as I said you need to sit at one point whether it's a pre selection because there are a lot of other applicants or it's part of the assessment center is decided by the selection board in light of how many applicants there are and the scoring as mentioned before so you have the berbil from 0 to 20 the numerical 0 to 10 I'm sorry 0 to 10 and numerical reasoning and the abstract reasoning are combined in the scoring now let me take two minutes looking at some questions which are very arbitrary I'm going to pick but I want to reassure you that we're going to answer all these questions and follow-up email or within a few days or find a way to communicate that to you so no question remains unanswered so let me pick one is someone undateable if they have more than six years experience before their university degree now generally the rule is that before your university degree whatever work experience you had is not counted and that I know is a very frustrating situation but usually the way episode looks at it is that the actual work experience in in legal formal terms is mounted only from the moment that you obtain your degree so even if you did some summer jobs or work you're better during university it would not be counted word the purposes of a competition and then another one what about five years studies and two years experience during a master at the two years part-time again as as long as you have your degree only from that moment will your work experience be covered so let's go to the next one and again if we have a bit of time in the end I'll try to come back to these questions so that was about the psychometric test the abstract horrible numerical reasoning and the important thing is that these stats are eliminatory but they do not count towards the other tests in the Assessment Center so these are really to select in the first round the applicants but if they are part of the Assessment Center again they are not counted they are not counted towards your final score which will decide whether or not you are placed on the reserve list so with that in mind selection is based on qualifications as the next step so assuming that there was a pre selection because there were so many candidates you had to sit the abstract verbal numerical reason it does fine you did that and then absol establishes a certain score so they say well this is the threshold and we're going to look at everyone's application who scored more than this certain number and that's when they look at your qualification if there was no pre-selection test so there are not so many applicants then they start with looking at each and every person who applied each and every person's formal qualifications and the talent screener answers so this is where it comes in as a very important aspect that your talent screener is actually read and schooled if everything goes well you pass to the next stage and that is the Assessment Center which comprises up a couple of exercises and there are essentially four types of exercises in this particular episode competition one is the case study the other one is the group exercise you have a general competency-based interview and a specific competency based interview what is each we have extensive information free ebooks free articles and very very actionable webinars available on you training that you on each of these exercises but a nutshell you might be interested what's the difference between the general competency-based interview and the specific competency-based interview the general one is often also called CBI so just competency-based interview or structured interview which is not related to the ICT field these are related to the so called competencies those competencies such as working with others or communication leadership these will be the competencies that Apso is looking for so these questions relate to your personal skill set in those areas the specific competency based interview on the other hand is related to your field so that's where they go back to your talent screener and go back to your professional background and they ask you very specifically so what do you do at KPMG when you worked on that software project what do you think about this sort of method to approach the following problem so that issue is is route in your professional background and in your specific knowledge and that's when they really test your subject matter expertise the scoring is pretty straightforward you have eight competencies and each is worth ten points for the specific ones and there's a certain pass mark so you have 50 out of 100 that you need to pass but it's usually you need to have far more than that in order to succeed at the competition and then you also have I believe 50 points out you need to have hung or you can have hundred points and you can you need at least 50 points for the specific competency-based interview questions so with that in mind hoping everything goes smooth silk and you end up on the reserve list and the reserve list is something which is the ultimate goal of an absolute selection process and each reserve list has it already it is known that's what's written in the notice of competition how many places there will be on the reserve list the reservist has a certain value leti but for specialist competitions it's usually valid until a similar competition is announced so usually it's two years occasionally even longer because that's the source from which you can be recruited so once you're in the reserve list that's when the institutions and especially European Commission can contact you and say hey we'd like you to work with us and then when that happens they invite you to a job interview perhaps with two or three others but certainly not with hundreds or thousands that's really the final step and you need to then focus on your interview skills and that's when the job offer is extended to you how to get the job a couple of broad tips and pieces of advice practice for a couple of weeks practice for whether it's eight weeks 12 weeks or you're a genius and to week's the most important is that you refresh those parts of your brain and those skill sets of yours that have not been used for a while maybe you're very actively using your numerical reasoning skills as part of your job in the software area or in the ICT area but maybe you didn't do much in verbal reasoning and making sure that you are very familiar doing those kind of tests in your first language because if you are working abroad maybe you're used to a different terminology maybe you read a little slower in that language you need to make sure that you are fast and efficient again it's not the difficulty that usually gets someone to fail it's the time that's why you need practice in order to be efficient next thing is just be consistent whether it's 30 minutes every day whether it's one hour twice a week it doesn't matter much as long as you are consistent just like with a sport you are regularly practicing and not only practicing but you have a methodology so you bring in systems you bring in a way to go about those questions and it's not ad hoc your approach to a test question and being very persistent and having your eye on the goal and eye on the ball making sure that you're into it so do simulation so with that in mind we hope that you can find useful resources because we offer you these verbal reasoning tests and the interface it might look a little simple or simplified or a little too basic but that's very much on purpose because it looks 99.9% like episode so the one that you'll be facing at the competition itself with the same type of buttons interface and things like that except for top header where you can file an error report if you found a mistake by chance we're working very hard that you never have to do that but bottom line is the interface is just like the one you'll have exactly the same goes for the numerical reasoning these are the type of charts and tables that you'll be you'll be facing you see the button calculator so that's an on-screen calculator that you can make use of but it's often more efficient to do mental calculations and the abstract reasoning with these interesting pieces of art where you need to find the next one in the sequence and sometimes you even have five options and not just for so if you need to just guess the the random guessing would decrease unfortunately your chances from twenty five to twenty percent but that it's still an important thing so if you don't manage to finish all the questions then make sure that no question is left unmarked so with that in mind we really invite you to practice and use many of our free services and resources and ebooks and tips and tricks and strategies and with that in mind happy to share with you this information piece of information that we have sixteen languages available for the verbal reasoning so and I have to confess if it's in Greek unfortunately I don't understand a single word and having difficulty even reading it but we are proud to share that with you you can practice verbal reasoning in all these beautiful European languages and with different alphabets so with that in mind we also have numerical and abstract reasoning questions several hundreds if not thousands even in English French and Spanish though admittedly here the language is less important because the emphasis is on the question and the table which usually doesn't have a lot words in it the point there being you need to calculate and not so much read and with that I invite you to check our webinars we have a lot of a lot of free beginner webinars on all three types of questions and test types that I mentioned the abstract verbal and numerical reasoning it's available on our website if you browse around it's a wealth of information that is all there for you to help you succeed with a couple of premium ones so the pro tips webinars if you to dig deeper and there's even one of maths refresher for numerical reasoning which may not be so relevant for especially for this competition presuming that you are actively programming or working in the ICT but who knows if you need that we are more than happy to make that available for you along with ebooks tips and tricks and free demos this is how the test starting interface looks like you can really compose your own test in practice mode or exam mode whether you want a timed tech practice or something you take it at your pace and simulation comes later I'm happy to confirm that my book which was published this year the 2016 Edition is relevant for this competition especially the administrator the Green Edition on the left and the blue one is for the Assessment Center that we have written together early on the Souter who is a former episode selection board president and actually he presided over a competition of an ICT competition so he really knows how that works from multiple angles and then the special offer that I mentioned which is a code you see on the screen that's my IT episode comm 2016 make sure you know the lower case and upper case and this code gives you a whopping 19 percent discount for two days where you have until Saturday 7:00 p.m. Central European Time to make use of it and kickstart your preparation so my ITF so competition I'll leave it a little bit on the screen while I answer a few questions we still have a few minutes from our webinar session so let me look at one or two so here is one nationality British and issue will have Belgian soon or Stephen that's probably a good strategic move but for the sake of the competition it's not a problem so as I said from a legal perspective the UK is a member country just like any other so eligibility is not an issue when it comes to the very very end the actual recruitment that it might have an impact that again who knows what happens in the next year or two in the whole political negotiations so that's that's a different discussion but for the sake of application being British is just like any other nationality another one if language one is only used in the pre selection when it makes sense to declare your second languages language 1 and user mother tongue in the other stages assuming that the mother tongue is English or French yes so the point is and Jorge was asking this so you can you can do that of course some people might say well is that the right thing to do but again in in in all formal terms legal terms this is perfectly legitimate because who who is who can who can say who has the right to say which one is their dominant language for me I'm working in English of speaking English alot so English is almost like my mother tongue I I wish it was because I'm certainly have an accent tonight my vocabulary is not as deep as someone who's a native speaker but I could choose between my native Hungarian or English and decide which one works better for me so as long as I have that level of fluency in a given language it's entirely up to you which one you choose so if you would like to choose language 1 or language let's say your English is your mother tongue you can choose one or the other depending on entirely on your personal preferences let me check one or two more questions here's one that says the six years working experience have to be met at the moment of registration in the moment of pre selection tests now that's a good very good question and I would need to check the details in the notice of competition but I believe it needs to be met at the moment Oh one day maybe one the application deadline closes this would be my presumption but then again with the caveat I need to check the notice of competition and if they don't mention that that it's worth asking episode four a formal answer on this matter because of course if you are right now at five years and ten months you don't want to be disqualified because you may not have that experience because of a couple of weeks of different so that it might be worth asking directly up so if it's not written you notice competition but we're happy to look into it and advise you accordingly and trying to filter here there are a lot of questions about eligibility and I presume this is something we can have follow up afterwards and what if I have a technical diploma but not in ICT and I have enough experience I think the question of diploma and and qualification is a very important one and often they would they would list the type of degree that is accepted I don't recall seeing a specific list of what sort of ICT diploma is is agreed is accepted so very often what happens is that the selection board makes a decision on a case-by-case basis so if you have a degree let's say technical diploma from your country and let's presume that country is portable and in and it's known or you make it known that in your country there is just simply no other university education or college-level education for that particular subject then you just simply have no choice but to go into that area so they need to accept that as an ICT related qualification another aspect would be what subjects did you do or what your thesis was about or so looking at a little bit that the substance of what that degree actually offered because it was technical a technical in the sense of let's say physical telecommunication equipment which may not be relevant when it comes to the software side of IT security or enterprise resource planning or other subsets or profiles so it's often a question that the selection panel would decide on a case-by-case basis let's look at some others please can we use personal projects to answer questions in the talent screener or is it strictly for professional experiences oh it's um personal projects I think that there are two elements to it one is do you have were you working let's say formally at with an employer or maybe were freelancer so how what format did that personal project actually take was it moonlighting project that you just worked on with some friends and it didn't really have any documentation or was it something more formal that you got paid for or at least there was a contract so presume they they have questions about it can you prove it do you have some formal way to showcase that you work on those projects and it wasn't something you were doing in your back yard or in your basement or whatever it may have been that you just work on as a hobby so if you can can showcase it or prove it in one way or another then I would say you can enter that in the talent screener as a relevant work experience or it's a relevant knowledge that you have gained here's another one when the best start more or less or the rule of thumb there is in the episode forward planning there is some indication when the tests may start or if it's not there then they are likely going to update that fairly soon but the rule of thumb is that from the day of the from the last day of the application which I mentioned the staff of January next year the the exams are often announced usually in in a one to three month window so you could reasonably have the the actual tests one month after the closure the closing date of the application but in some cases it takes longer and again it all depends on how many applicants there are and if they need to do a pre selection that in some sense it's easier because everyone needs to sit the same type of exams and you have all these exam centers around the world not just in Europe but if there are not so many applicants and they need to actually go through each application and look at the talent screeners and look at your former occasions one by one that might be a more labor-intensive process so it's all it's all a function of how many applicants there are that's why it's hard to say when exactly the competition will be but making sure that it I find it very unlikely or I consider it very unlikely that you'll have any the next steps may happen still in January so as long as you respect the deadline you file your application in time you can lean back a little bit or you can start actually practicing pretty intensively because the exams will certainly intensify as of February and let's look at one more question or maybe we're two more here is if you have the experience to choose between profiles and you're already working in either process or Luxembourg is it possible to determine better which positions are more probably located in the city you are already living in since you can only apply to one position yeah that's it that's a pretty good question I think the answer to that is is asking around just simply asking around if you happen to have friends who work at the commission especially that the Commission trying to find out which services are handled from which location and then if you have a luxury again to be eligible for multiple profiles and your key consideration is which city you may end up in then you probably want to look at it and say well this particular profile is handled mostly from Brussels whereas the other one is handled or service from Luxembourg here's another one if you're still working at a specific company there's no way to select present in the application you always have to choose a date how should you then mention and have the experience still counting I'm not sure I understand but that's a question we'll come back to when I'm more focused than I can really understand it more in-depth and let's try to pick a final question I'm preparing PMP so I guess that's project management-related or right now hoping to get it by the first quarter of 2017 how to mention that well you can mention that in as you did here that you are in the process of obtaining that degree and I'm presuming that what you're referring to is not your underlying degree because anyways you need to have all those years of experience so it's probably an additional qualification so you can mention that at a relevant question saying you are pursuing right now this particular qualification give you a word of that degree in the first quarter of 2017 so you kind of leave it open but you communicated the fact that you are doing that sort of self-training and further education so here's maybe the last one what should a candidate do if the verbal reasoning is badly translated into our language it has happened yes yes unfortunately I have to agree with you we've heard that and the thing is to exo's credit they are working on quality assurance quite a lot so they are trying to improve the quality of their translation or the quality of the protocol reasoning tests so yes it is a risk and it might happen but over the years given the number of competitions that so has run through the partners Prometric they are keen on improving the quality of their especially the verbal reasoning test so hopefully that's not going to be a challenge that's not going to be a situation that you need to face so as I mentioned before I'll try my best or we'll try with our team our best to answer all your questions especially the ones I didn't have a chance to look into right now but with that in mind to remind you you'll get the recording the present size and hopefully within a week the webcast transcript so you can read through everything I have detailed in the past 60 minutes and please always feel free to contact us reach out to get in touch send us a mail at a comment were there to help you succeed help you get a job at the European institutions bypassing the European personal selection office selection test so with that in mind I wish you a very pleasant evening or whatever they are part of the daily you may be watching the recording and thanks very much for being here with us please share the recording the presentation and everything else with friends who are preparing for the same competition and hope to see you in Brussels or in Luxembourg and I can invite you for a beer to celebrate your success thank you so much once again it's understand it from Brussels

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